yeah, thanks mate, I really appreciate someone taking this thread seriously as subject matter.
You know I don't say these things to troll, I actually have spent time considering this stuff over the years, and what better place to share these matters then on a trance forum?
Kratonic wrote :1 and 2. These two actually go together to some extent. People who are reasonable who do make themselves available are not that common. You used Raja Ram as an example. He does not play very often really. And I agree he is not that great musically. BUT, he is a whole lot of fun to be around. I don't care how crap his mixing is, I had fun watching the last set I saw him play. I also see plenty of guys who I think play average trance and produce average parties who just keep going. The point is that they are tenacious and just keep at it. Good for them! Persistence pays off in everything. Some people do have chips on their shoulders the size of major forests and don't seen to understand that this stops them getting gigs.
My personal experience is that you can actually get sets quite easily at reasonably large events with relatively modest talents if you contribute to the scene to the best of your ability. I manage stages, lend my gear, pick up rubbish, teach what I can, learn what I can, and am flattered by the sets I get offered.
Well, I suppose people who make themselves available all the time are just living to party, play tunes and be part of it all, really. They're needed, but I kinda disagree that we have outdoor parties every weekend myself, it's a real waste on resources (environmental, financial, etc) and we should conserve our strength and put some thought into real different treats for the people. Real treats.
OK, Raja ram IS a bit of an entertainer, and I suppose I didn't really think too much about that aspect. I suppose that there's high quality you can have in mixing, tunes and entertainment as seperate catagories. And then there's getting available acts who are cheap, this breaks it all up a little.
I don't agree "good on" people who persistantly pester and get gigs just because they tried, there's heaps of people who are waiting for a go that should get contacted.
Responsibility and contactability/avavailability is a good point to make, especially in regards to outdoor events. It's hard to get out there all the time just to play some tunes. personally, that's why I just don't try to play outdoors anymore, I know there's many factors that keep me away from outdoors parties.
I think it's important to give new people a go all the time, it's just playing tunes, isn't it?
Kratonic wrote :3. I'm just going to assume you're not taking the piss out of me here and take you seriously. The kids as far as I am concerned is anyone under 35. They like the people who are playing regularly out there otherwise they would not be. It's as simple as that.
Fair enough. You're fairly old
I have to question the whole name act thing though, it takes away from part of the magic and turns it into something else that I didn't start doofing for. The best parties I've been to have had line-ups that I haven't an idea who they were.
Take the piss, who me? Nevvvaaaar!
Kratonic wrote :4. Jaded Fuckers. Every doof is circled by chin strokers who have heard it before, seen it before and are not impressed and think it's about time someone new and different got a set. Sound familiar? But, you know what? The kids are happy and having a good time. I try hard to be a kid far more than a chin stroker. Sometimes I fail and need to be slapped.
Chin strokers suck.
I find myself doing it too, so I grab another drink so I can go act the twit and get my head out of my ass and then fall ass over tit on the floor to some crap music I don't know what I'm doing wasting the body motion to. If I'm stroking my chin usually though, it means I hate the tunes or they're not dancable.
I generally think that you shouldn't really be going to parties if you're going to do that all the time. Well, that's why I stopped going to doofs. Because I'm a "chin-stroker" and damn proud of it. It means I hold a lot of value to what I like to listen to and I observe a lot of things. Chin strokers are highly critical of the flow of a party and what direction everythings headed in. Nothing wrong with that.
Kratonic wrote :I don't think it's as bad as you make out. But, that's just the way I see it.
It's probably not that bad, but it's been plauging my brain for a long time now as to why some guys play all the time when they're not that great, and why can't things be a bit more original with 100% fresh line-ups by the same crew? Share the wealth!