The Obama Deception

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Merkaba2012
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...And now some wise words from Bill...
ATREYU
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I wonder how many of youz have actually watched the doco?

The majority of u have misssed the point completely :roll:
speekeesy
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II. "If we are of a giving and a forgiving spirit, we shall ourselves reap the benefit of it: Forgive and you shall be forgiven. If we forgive the injuries done to us by others, others will forgive our inadvertencies...
III. We must expect to be dealt with ourselves as we deal with others: With the same measure that ye mete it shall be measured to you again. Those that deal hardly with others must acknowledge, as Adoni-bezek did (Jdg. 1:7), that God is righteous, if others deal hardly with them, and they may expect to be paid in their own coin; but they that deal kindly with others have reason to hope that, when they have occasion, God will raise them up friends who will deal kindly with them."

Luke 6.38
beatpyramid
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Wade Shekinah wrote :
Obama gave free rights for abortion murder. If you people knew of the statistics of this infanticide you would shudder. Every human being has the right to life. These innocent little human beings are not even safe in their mother's womb. Now even after the abortion term has passed there is a procedure called partial birth abortion, where they insert a tube into the babies head, near the cerebellum, and suck its brains out, then pull the rest of the infant out and discard it; this happens while the baby is alive. Barak Obama passed this under the falsehood of freedom of choice and women's rights. NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO KILL AN INNOCENT HUMAN BEING - THOU SHALT NOT KILL; and life starts at the instant of conception. God creates the soul at the instant of conception. ABORTION IS THE MURDER OF INNOCENTS. Abortion clinics otherwise called ABORTUARIES should be bulldozed down and forbidden; and people should stop rutting like toxic beasts in dirty lust, thus preventing these dark circumstances from occuring.


yes i dont like abortion as a contraceptive, in some casses i do see it as an ethical option (eg, rape).

But you also have to understand that politics is now distancing itself from one specific religion. It is all well and good to say that this 'ignorance' is going to see them to hell, but you also have to remember that yours is not the only religion on the planet. Diversity is one of the many beauties of humanity.
beatpyramid
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ATREYU wrote :
beatpyramid wrote :
Im sick to death of these conspiracy theories (if they can even be called that). Do people really have this deep seeded paranoia of the modern world?

The world is full of political ideologies, and thats what they are. Ideologies. Im not having a personal crack at anybody.

I am not condoning the American system of government, i just don't see it as one giant conspiracy to remove all powers from the hands of the people and give full control to the bougwasie. The institution of the state seems to be some cause of these political misconceptions and a resounding fear.

in all seriousness i just don't get it.



Well you should listen to this speech by JFK.



+ research the federal reserve system/Central banking.

e.g Check out Ron Paul speeches such as this one


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Sure this info it is scary, and if it were not based in truth you could call in paranoia, unfortunately it is based in fact. Sticking your head in the sand will not make the problem go away.

"CENTRAL BANKING" is the problem.



"there is no truth, but your truth and my truth"

I am hardly sticking my head in the sand, in fact today i sat in a lecture held by Ali Quazi, one of the leading intellects in corporate social responsibility in the world. He explored the ideas that people such as those in the documentary and alike had. And it just reinforced my views on the subject.

Things such as "centralized banking" are blown completely out of proportion. Yes there is a lack of social responsibility from organizations as such, and this is furthered by capitalist liberalism. But i do not agree to the point that this documentary and its supporters do.

Sorry, but i just don't.
I'm not naive to do so, and my head is not in the sand.
Pete_Paranoid
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beatpyramid wrote :
ATREYU wrote :
beatpyramid wrote :
Im sick to death of these conspiracy theories (if they can even be called that). Do people really have this deep seeded paranoia of the modern world?

The world is full of political ideologies, and thats what they are. Ideologies. Im not having a personal crack at anybody.

I am not condoning the American system of government, i just don't see it as one giant conspiracy to remove all powers from the hands of the people and give full control to the bougwasie. The institution of the state seems to be some cause of these political misconceptions and a resounding fear.

in all seriousness i just don't get it.



Well you should listen to this speech by JFK.



+ research the federal reserve system/Central banking.

e.g Check out Ron Paul speeches such as this one


----------------

Sure this info it is scary, and if it were not based in truth you could call in paranoia, unfortunately it is based in fact. Sticking your head in the sand will not make the problem go away.

"CENTRAL BANKING" is the problem.



"there is no truth, but your truth and my truth"

I am hardly sticking my head in the sand, in fact today i sat in a lecture held by Ali Quazi, one of the leading intellects in corporate social responsibility in the world. He explored the ideas that people such as those in the documentary and alike had. And it just reinforced my views on the subject.

Things such as "centralized banking" are blown completely out of proportion. Yes there is a lack of social responsibility from organizations as such, and this is furthered by capitalist liberalism. But i do not agree to the point that this documentary and its supporters do.

Sorry, but i just don't.
I'm not naive to do so, and my head is not in the sand.


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AdrianPsy
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I watched the whole thing and I got my girlfriend and her sister and my folks to all watch it too.

Really interesting watch... now we just have to do something about all this.
jaimz
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AdrianPsy wrote :
I watched the whole thing and I got my girlfriend and her sister and my folks to all watch it too.

Really interesting watch... now we just have to do something about all this.


Start by thinking for yourselves and not believing the rhetoric of a man whose motive is purely to be anti-authoritarian. "Obama Deception" is, just like all the other ridiculous conspiracy theories, a collection of half-truths designed purely to stimulate a primal fear that someone or something is intending to control the world.

Be careful, because once you enter the world of the Conspiracy Theorist, like Atreyu has, nothing can convince you that it's not true, because the nature of the Conspiracy is that you can manipulate everything you see and hear to fit what you want to believe. It is a mind bomb, a mental virus. It's a retreat for those so weak that they cannot accept that there is no-one completely in control and that the world is a constant blunder.

Here's Terrance McKenna on Conspiracy Theories.

FRACAS
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^^^^ "nobody is in control" ....Terence gold!!! :)
SpeakaHuggers
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opinions are like ass holes...

ignorance is bliss...

bring on the conspiracy's...true or not they are more entertaining than electro!

if u liked "the obama deception"...then u will love "the disclosure project"
:lol:
phoney
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ATREYU wrote :
The point is. It doesn't matter who they voted for. They all work for the same global banking interests.


You mean these guys?

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Now, where have I heard that before.....

ATREYU wrote :
I wonder how many of youz have actually watched the doco?


I watched the first 10 mins.

The first 3 sources quoted in the "documentary":

KRS-ONE "Legendary Rapper"
Jesse Ventura "Former Pro Wrestler"
Joe Rogan "Comedian"

HAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA!

The only thing it's missing is flouride, chemtrails and reptilians.
ATREYU
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Phoney. You only watched 10 min. Then your comment is invalid. Just like any comments made by any of u who havn't watched it.

Ignoring= Ignorance.
phoney
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If ive taken a bite out of a shit sandwich, do I need to eat the whole sandwich to tell you the whole thing tastes like shit?
Wade Shekinah
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speekeesy wrote :
If we forgive the injuries done to us by others, others will forgive our inadvertencies...
We must expect to be dealt with ourselves as we deal with others: With the same measure that ye mete it shall be measured to you again....
Luke 6.38


I do forgive all others, and I treat them with mercy and empathy. BUT I WILL TELL SOMEONE WHEN WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS VERY BAD; AND LIKEWISE I TELL SOMEONE IF WHAT THEY ARE ABOUT TO DO COULD CAUSE THEIR DEATH OR THAT OF ANOTHER.

We are rational beings, with such great potential of intellect and love/charity, and we must follow our consciences, with reasoning, logic and honesty. If someone is on the road to eternal damnation, and are living a life of unrestrained habitual mortal sin I will tell them, which goes further to making them rethink their lives and renounce their iniquity than if I was just to say "bless you, no matter what we do it is alright, God is love, and you're forgiven no matter how evil you are". This mindset is a deception of the
Devil. God is also perfect Justice, Wisdom, and Truth. And if the offence is measured by the dignity and majesty of the one offended then we must realize that God being infinite in all His perfections is thus infinitely offended by mortal sin. And here is the pertinant part - we cannot ever offer infinite reparation, atonement, or adoration to God; for we a little creatures of God, and have fallen from Grace. Only God can offer what is infinite; this is the reason for the Incarnation of the Word of God - Who is the Christ - so as to make infinite reparation and atonement for the infinite offence Adam & Eve has committed, and for the infinite offences for all our actual mortal sins. This needed to be done for these offences are infinite in transgression.

God humbled Himself to become at one with our humanity, and to offer Himself up as the immaculate Holy Sacrifice in complete self-immolation for the reparation and atonement of our sins. And it was only in this most perfect act of love and sacrifice that Christ had merited our Redemption. BUT WE MUST COMPLY AND CO-OPERATE AND CONSECRATE OURSELVES, AND LIVE WITH FIDELITY TO GOD, WHO IS OUR ONLY GOOD AND SOURCE OF OUR BEING, FOR THIS DIVINE WORK OF REDEMPTION TO BE EFFICACIOUS. Or otherwise His most precious Blood was spilt for us in vain. Our sins can only be absolved and forgiven by the infinite merits of the Passion and Death of our Lord Jesus Christ; they can only be cleansed from our souls by His most precious Blood.
phoney
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Who is this god bloke you keep banging on about?

You got any proof of his existance?
ionized
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beatpyramid wrote :
Im sick to death of these conspiracy theories (if they can even be called that). Do people really have this deep seeded paranoia of the modern world?


Do you really think that the global system of economics, politics and energy usage is the best we can come up with? Or maybe you just sit back and think... well... humans are kinda dumb and the world is just a fucked up place, so i'll leave it at that.

Call it what you want, you can even boil it down to simple human greed, but shit is a little fucked up behind the scenes. Since the media dont report on it and any deviation from the accepted world view doesnt seem to be taken seriously, research that fall outside the square is lumped into the nice catch all term 'conspiracy theory'. Nice and easy to dismiss then. Everything from new energy supression to GM food poisoning us. Damn, lump that with reptillian DNA activation, throw in some Raeilans and you have yourself a nice big wad of ignorant bliss.

Fuck it. Anyway...

beatpyramid wrote :
I am not condoning the American system of government, i just don't see it as one giant conspiracy to remove all powers from the hands of the people and give full control to the bougwasie. The institution of the state seems to be some cause of these political misconceptions and a resounding fear.


No your not condoning it because you dont actually know what your arguing against.

Fabian society, Communitarian league, United Nations Agenda 21. Its actually all there in plain sight of you want to research it. You dont even need to go anywhere near the Freemasonry or Illuminati connections. The move towards a global socialist society has been in the works for a long fucking time.


beatpyramid wrote :
in all seriousness i just don't get it.


Well, that would be the 'conspiracy' part of a conspiracy theory.
phoney
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Those who need a myriad of conspiracy theories to give their lives some excitement must lead very dull lives.

It's a bit like religion I suppose, some people just need to believe in something, because as Jaimz pointed out they simply cannot accept that there is no-one in control and nothing more to it after death.


I pity their pathetic souls sometimes.
ionized
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Look. C'mon...

What is this bullshit?

OK, so your brainwashed with the concept of original sin, good and evil and the need to tremble in the shadow of a God that requires your constant submission through a book.

Sure.

You identify with a bloodied martyr nailed to a cross. Good powerfull image that one. Makes people do all sorts of wierd shit in his name.

Problems with abortion?

Its a hot topic, so OK.

Aside from the obvious loophole of what happens to a miscarried foetus when it goes straight to heaven... does it spend eternity as a foetus or does it grow into a person? You know... seeing as the soul is transmitted at conception and all. Never got a good answer from a priest on that one.

Fair enough, so the JC model works for you at this point in your spiritual development. Awesome. Probably stops you from doing all sorts of retarded things. Faiths are good for that.

But do you have any idea how insulting it is to peddle this hardcore christian shit on a psytrance forum?

Many people here have spent a fair ammount of time trying to transcended such simple polarized views of consciousness and spirit and for the most part of it dont ran't and rave about their enlightening experiences. Many have also done it through ways that you would consider 'satanic' practices.

So like... give it a rest ay? Or tone it down. Cos your coming across as a bit oppositionary.

Oh... and pro tip: posting all those quotes from the bible. Not such an effective way of getting your message across. SINCE IT HAS NO CONTEXT TO ANYONE OTHER THAN OTHER BIBLE TOUTING CHRISTIANS SINCE WE DONT FOLLOW SAID FAITH.

GETTIT???




Wade Shekinah wrote :
speekeesy wrote :
If we forgive the injuries done to us by others, others will forgive our inadvertencies...
We must expect to be dealt with ourselves as we deal with others: With the same measure that ye mete it shall be measured to you again....
Luke 6.38


I do forgive all others, and I treat them with mercy and empathy. BUT I WILL TELL SOMEONE WHEN WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS VERY BAD; AND LIKEWISE I TELL SOMEONE IF WHAT THEY ARE ABOUT TO DO COULD CAUSE THEIR DEATH OR THAT OF ANOTHER.

We are rational beings, with such great potential of intellect and love/charity, and we must follow our consciences, with reasoning, logic and honesty. If someone is on the road to eternal damnation, and are living a life of unrestrained habitual mortal sin I will tell them, which goes further to making them rethink their lives and renounce their iniquity than if I was just to say "bless you, no matter what we do it is alright, God is love, and you're forgiven no matter how evil you are". This mindset is a deception of the
Devil. God is also perfect Justice, Wisdom, and Truth. And if the offence is measured by the dignity and majesty of the one offended then we must realize that God being infinite in all His perfections is thus infinitely offended by mortal sin. And here is the pertinant part - we cannot ever offer infinite reparation, atonement, or adoration to God; for we a little creatures of God, and have fallen from Grace. Only God can offer what is infinite; this is the reason for the Incarnation of the Word of God - Who is the Christ - so as to make infinite reparation and atonement for the infinite offence Adam & Eve has committed, and for the infinite offences for all our actual mortal sins. This needed to be done for these offences are infinite in transgression.

God humbled Himself to become at one with our humanity, and to offer Himself up as the immaculate Holy Sacrifice in complete self-immolation for the reparation and atonement of our sins. And it was only in this most perfect act of love and sacrifice that Christ had merited our Redemption. BUT WE MUST COMPLY AND CO-OPERATE AND CONSECRATE OURSELVES, AND LIVE WITH FIDELITY TO GOD, WHO IS OUR ONLY GOOD AND SOURCE OF OUR BEING, FOR THIS DIVINE WORK OF REDEMPTION TO BE EFFICACIOUS. Or otherwise His most precious Blood was spilt for us in vain. Our sins can only be absolved and forgiven by the infinite merits of the Passion and Death of our Lord Jesus Christ; they can only be cleansed from our souls by His most precious Blood.
beatpyramid
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ionized wrote :
beatpyramid wrote :
Im sick to death of these conspiracy theories (if they can even be called that). Do people really have this deep seeded paranoia of the modern world?


Do you really think that the global system of economics, politics and energy usage is the best we can come up with? Or maybe you just sit back and think... well... humans are kinda dumb and the world is just a fucked up place, so i'll leave it at that.

Call it what you want, you can even boil it down to simple human greed, but shit is a little fucked up behind the scenes. Since the media dont report on it and any deviation from the accepted world view doesnt seem to be taken seriously, research that fall outside the square is lumped into the nice catch all term 'conspiracy theory'. Nice and easy to dismiss then. Everything from new energy supression to GM food poisoning us. Damn, lump that with reptillian DNA activation, throw in some Raeilans and you have yourself a nice big wad of ignorant bliss.

Fuck it. Anyway...

beatpyramid wrote :
I am not condoning the American system of government, i just don't see it as one giant conspiracy to remove all powers from the hands of the people and give full control to the bougwasie. The institution of the state seems to be some cause of these political misconceptions and a resounding fear.


No your not condoning it because you dont actually know what your arguing against.

Fabian society, Communitarian league, United Nations Agenda 21. Its actually all there in plain sight of you want to research it. You dont even need to go anywhere near the Freemasonry or Illuminati connections. The move towards a global socialist society has been in the works for a long fucking time.


beatpyramid wrote :
in all seriousness i just don't get it.






Well, that would be the 'conspiracy' part of a conspiracy theory.


Im studying politics and commerce, so i do know what im arguing against (i wasn't actually arguing in reality, i was just stating my opinion) and i have an open mind. Shit, i am even doing a unit called Government Business relations which deals with this sort of framework, ideas and concepts.

Im all for Corporate social Responsibility and ethical investments, in fact i had a guest lecture yesterday hosted by Ali Quazi a leader in CSR.

Im leaving this "debate", if im going to get hounded by people that make assumptions on my character then it is stupid and isnt really a debate.
ATREYU
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Beatpyramid.

Why take any offence? I do not want to belittle anyone. I just presented this doco as it is the only piece of media atm takin a good look at the "Obama" situation. Sure there may be some facts in there that are mistaken, yet there is also some truth in there too.

+ The desired creation of a world bank and world gov by the elite is "reality". Like it or not.

How can anyone make a judgment on info without reading or watching it? I think it is healthy to investigate all sides of a story, (like in a real debate).

+ Its good to hear u are studying, yet remember, university is a part of the system, and thus it an instrument of keeping the status quo.

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P.S This bible stuff has very little if anything to do with the info presented in the doco. So plz post it in another thread if you so desire.
slip
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I love that Terrence McKenna audio, he sure nailed it on the head.

At the very most, these conspiracy theories are about domestic American politics, not world politics. I haven't seen any Chinese conspirators... or Russian or Indian for that matter... these countries make up half the world's population.

The global recession that the clever American puppet masters supposedly perpetrated forgot to include the second biggest power in the world, China who are still growing at an extremely fast pace (granted it's slowed down, from boom growth to just fast growth). China are very quickly catching up to the US and will undoubtably become the next superpower, if they aren't already (what can America do that they can't?).

As for the one world government, what moron said "United Nations Agenda 21"? - A UN agenda is barely worth the paper it's (not) printed on! The UN has done next to nothing in its 60 year existence, they get ignored by great powers and tinpot countries alike. If that's the best these global puppet masters can do, then we can all rest assured that they're not very good at controlling the world.
phoney
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Im sure global bankers and puppet masters have far more important things to do than take over the world.

Like coke and hookers!
ATREYU
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slip wrote :
I love that Terrence McKenna audio, he sure nailed it on the head.

At the very most, these conspiracy theories are about domestic American politics, not world politics. I haven't seen any Chinese conspirators... or Russian or Indian for that matter... these countries make up half the world's population.

The global recession that the clever American puppet masters supposedly perpetrated forgot to include the second biggest power in the world, China who are still growing at an extremely fast pace (granted it's slowed down, from boom growth to just fast growth). China are very quickly catching up to the US and will undoubtably become the next superpower, if they aren't already (what can America do that they can't?).

As for the one world government, what moron said "United Nations Agenda 21"? - A UN agenda is barely worth the paper it's (not) printed on! The UN has done next to nothing in its 60 year existence, they get ignored by great powers and tinpot countries alike. If that's the best these global puppet masters can do, then we can all rest assured that they're not very good at
controlling the world.


The puppet masters are not American. China being stronger is not a sign of good things to come. The puppet masters, who want a world govt likely would like a system of control much like China's, to dominate the rest of us.

Who do you think funded Hitler, Mao, Stalin etc?

-Obviously you didn't watch the doco .
ionized
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slip wrote :
I love that Terrence McKenna audio, he sure nailed it on the head.
At the very most, these conspiracy theories are about domestic American politics, not world politics. I haven't seen any Chinese conspirators... or Russian or Indian for that matter... these countries make up half the world's population.


Yeah, well thats kind of the thrust with a lot of them. Western power enslaving the rest of the world and has been doing it for centures. The Empire never ended sort of a deal.

As for chinese conspiracies, get your teeth into this one http://www.rense.com/general77/chinsec.htm

Its a beauty.

slip wrote :
The global recession that the clever American puppet masters supposedly perpetrated forgot to include the second biggest power in the world, China who are still growing at an extremely fast pace (granted it's slowed down, from boom growth to just fast growth). China are very quickly catching up to the US and will undoubtably become the next superpower, if they aren't already (what can America do that they can't?).


No one knows where this financial crisis is going and I laugh with much mirth whenever anyone tries to predict what the outcome will be. All I know is China is balls deep in american debt so they better hope that the US dollar stays upright. Hypothetically speaking if it was a manufactured collapse, they have China so loaded up on their currency that its in both of their best interests to keep the status quo.


slip wrote :
As for the one world government, what moron said "United Nations Agenda 21"? - A UN agenda is barely worth the paper it's (not) printed on! The UN has done next to nothing in its 60 year existence, they get ignored by great powers and tinpot countries alike. If that's the best these global puppet masters can do, then we can all rest assured that they're not very good at controlling the world.


That would be me.

Sure make up your own mind. Good point. As inneffective a body as it might be it does personally provoke a fair ammount of chin scratching when the UN starts agreeing that population reduction and mass control of the food supply is a good thing. My point was that the move towards a global socialist government (or NWO in conspiri-speak) has been common knowledge for a while now. So when people laugh and go 'as if'... well actually, yes. The other groups I named aswell as the Bilderberg group also have ideologies along these lines and are all non-governmental bodies with massive influence in world politics and business.
Pure__Ignorance
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Sorry Atreyu, I can't bring myself to watch the doco because I'll probably believe it :)

I listened to JFK though, but I thought he was talking about communists. And the Terry McKenna stuff was great too. As for Bill, I'm having a ciggarette for him right now.

God bless you Bill Hicks :|

Conspiracy or not, the world sure is going to shit. Yes, the global socialist state is looking pretty feasible, but on the one hand I do not think that it is becasue of the deliberate orchestrations of a secret society, and on the other hand I think if anyone has been able to pull that off and kept it so secret then they probably SHOUld be running the world because they're a fuck of alot smarter than anyone I can think of.

Conspiracy or not, it's up to the individual to resist. The undecided and the undignified allow the world to be ruled by greed and stupidity. One needs to have someone with power over them, and the other needs to have power over someone. If we let this go on unchecked, then we all go down with the ship regardless.

So do you want to escape? Are the benefits that global domination has brought you not worth the cost? Then Fling off the chains that the oppressor has used to shackle us! Quit your job, burn down your house, withdraw all of your cash from a teller machine and burn it too! Go outside, find someone walking down the street and tell them, tell them that you love them as a human being, not a commodity, and that you've decided to be a free citizen of the world. Don't pay your taxes, and don't justify taxes or government by using public infrastructure - walk beside the road, not on it! Drink only water that you find in puddles, streams or rivers, not out of the government run taps and dams! Ignore all laws but the ones that suit you personally. Be solely responsible for your own happiness, without the needless exploitation of others and above all else, never, ever, ever be forced to do anything for someone else.

Well I don't mean to sound defeatist, but I can't see that happening. People like having jobs, they like having government good or bad. We aren't going to get away after all I'm afraid. Government equals control, control attracts the poorest kind of person to government, and the rest of us are too stupid or helpless to do anything useful about it. The world is simply too big to be able to personally supervise our individual universe, we need to trade and intereact on a global scale everyday simply becasue we're all crowded in here so tight we can't get far enough apart to do our own thing. Aside from colonising space, there is nothing for us as individuals, even in larger collectives, to do about the global situation bar the smaller things.

And there is much comfort in the smaller things. Educate yourself and others. Not neccesarily with doco's about conspiracy theories, but with hemp clothing and letters to the editor. Consume conscienciously, give generously and live sustainably. Cartels bent on world domination will come and go, but the human spirit is never chained except through choice. Be an example to others and take up the work that these (real or imagined) cartels neglect or make neccessary.

I can't remember where I read it, it might have been in here , but "Be the change you want to see in the world"
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