The Obama Deception

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ionized
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Actually, your both full of shit. Take for example the 9/11 conspiracy.

Academics are involved on both sides of the debate. Psychologists, achitects, doctors, chemists, engineers. There's a fair amount of hard scientific fact that backs up the argument for it being a 'conspiracy' and yes... that evidence is provided by *shock* academic research. Still doesn't stop it from being argued, discounted or lumped into the same category as reptiles for some reason. I guess academic proof isn't what it used to be when your dealing with a brainwashed populace.


A few well known academic researchers:

Stanton T. Friedman? Nuclear Physicist, Lecturer and um.... UFO researcher?

Dr Steven Greer. Physician and uh.... oh yeah... UFO researcher too.

Zecharia Sitchin, Graham Hancock, John Anthony West. All well known and respected alternative historians, authors and academics in their field.


Either way, academically trained or not, I do think its funny how you can assess someones IQ on how closely they relate the word conspiracy with the word reptile.
beatpyramid
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traveller
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haha that is awesome beatpyramid :D

:m:
jaimz
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beatpyramid wrote :


I'd say that's the most intelligent post this thread has seen.
ATREYU
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ionized wrote :
Actually, your both full of shit. Take for example the 9/11 conspiracy.

Academics are involved on both sides of the debate. Psychologists, achitects, doctors, chemists, engineers. There's a fair amount of hard scientific fact that backs up the argument for it being a 'conspiracy' and yes... that evidence is provided by *shock* academic research. Still doesn't stop it from being argued, discounted or lumped into the same category as reptiles for some reason. I guess academic proof isn't what it used to be when your dealing with a brainwashed populace.


A few well known academic researchers:

Stanton T. Friedman? Nuclear Physicist, Lecturer and um.... UFO researcher?

Dr Steven Greer. Physician and uh.... oh yeah... UFO researcher too.

Zecharia Sitchin, Graham Hancock, John Anthony West. All well known and respected alternative historians, authors and academics in their field.


Either way, academically trained or not, I do think its funny how you can assess someones IQ on how closely they relate the word conspiracy with the word reptile.


I agree totally. I was referring to "mainstream accepted university, textbook, academia."

E.G The Pyramids were built as a tomb for the Pharoah Khufu- (Mainstream Academia) as opposed to the hypothesis presented by "Academics" like "John Anthony West" and "Graham Hancock",e.g that the Pyramids and Sphinx are far older and were used as tombs by Khufu hundreds of years after their construction. Why don't they teach these ideas in Uni.

Because its a controlled manipulated institution. It doesn't matter than there is tons of intelligent qualified people writing books and spending their whole lives providing info that contradicts what is taught at Uni, as people think the Universities are the bastions of truth. Thus in essence these alternative thinkers become outcasts of the mainstream.

And the masses believe the lie.
boondocksaint
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ATREYU wrote :
Getting back to topic:

As far as Obama goes, everyone needs to look past the smile and nice words and see:
a) who are the "financiers"
b) who are his cabinet/advisors
c) who are his educators/mentors (e.g Henry Kissinger)
These are the people that control the game.

Obama is just a CEO of the corporation known as "The United States of America". + Just like any other CEO of any major company, he is not elected, he is APPOINTED.

Democracy is BS.

"Do you want the Puppet on the right, or the Puppet on the left?"



Ok I regret the reptilian remark which was me finding it irresistible to stir the pot a bit. It was of course unfair. My mind is open to anything that's well argued and justified, and I'm afraid many of the claims in the Obama Deception seem to fall massively - and I mean staggeringly - short of this. Anyway, I thoroughly enjoy reading these radical perspectives, and I will continue to do so because as you say, nothing can be ruled out until you've thought about something and considered the arguments for it. You guys might enjoy David Icke as well (no guarantees, but check it out..)
Academics argue and research freely. Absolutely would they like to pioneer a wave of thought that is novel or against the mainstream view! (And they regularly do..) Many (but certainly not all) academics seek the truth, and there aren't actually institutional barriers in place for them to spread their version of the truth! Logic and evidence are the forces that determine what catches on in the great centres of learning. Fame is extremely tempting, and the idea that an academic would resist pursuing the groundbreaking truth they have realised out of respect for some system which most do not actually view as having nurtured them very much at all is just preposterous!! Governments have no way of controlling what political philosophers or political scientists have to say about world affairs. For example, are you aware of how many high-ranking university professors are anarchists, socialists or even, sadly, fascists, and totally opposed to modern status quo?! Some of the most extreme criticism of current society comes from the universities! Almost every tenableview has been taken up by some or other academic. The idea of academics self-censoring themselves, or protecting themselves from seeing some truth about the world, misses the whole essence of what drives academia. Unless the academics are all knowingly part of the New World Order plot as well? :shock: :shock:
ATREYU
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+ In regards to the bombing of the twin towers.

The mainstream story of Islamic terrorists Hijacking the planes is a far more ridiculous conspiracy theory than, any controlled demolition theory. + where is the plane that hit the Pentagon.

It is obvious FACT- that there is a "CONSPIRACY". Its just a question of which theory u subscribe to.

To think that they are going to teach kids in school that Islamic terrorist hijacked those planes is sickening.

If any of you still believe this BS lie then you really need to do some more research. There is plenty of info out there to study.
bargirl
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Pete_Paranoid wrote :
Phantomas wrote :
Here's another excellent article i found on Digg.
A slightly different angle, but dealing with the same issues. No conspiracy theory, just facts: Rolling Stone: The Big Takeover


:wave:How you going matey?
Here we go again:

So basicly your saying "You and who's army"?

This one!
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and/or

I could recite the entire book of Genesis!

of the subject girls in uniform mmmmmm
phoney
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ATREYU wrote :
+ In regards to the bombing of the twin towers.

The mainstream story of Islamic terrorists Hijacking the planes is a far more ridiculous conspiracy theory than, any controlled demolition theory. + where is the plane that hit the Pentagon.

It is obvious FACT- that there is a "CONSPIRACY". Its just a question of which theory u subscribe to.

To think that they are going to teach kids in school that Islamic terrorist hijacked those planes is sickening.

If any of you still believe this BS lie then you really need to do some more research. There is plenty of info out there to study.



http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net ... 911_morons
ATREYU
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You are an ignorant fool Phoney.
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beatpyramid
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Video fight!

You are all possibly more paranoid than that poor kitty!
phoney
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ATREYU wrote :
You are an ignorant fool Phoney.



You should watch the video on this page:

http://www.lolloosechange.co.nr/

It takes the Loose Change video, and super-imposes a written commentary that takes a forensic, point-by-point approach to exposing this movie for precisely what it is - a complete crock. In the process, it picks up on so much of the bullshit that gets repeated as fact on this site and elsewhere about 9/11.

I respectfully submit that anyone who repeats this bullshit from this point on either did not bother to watch this video (fair enough - it is almost 3 hours long), or is just plain stupid.
ATREYU
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I'll watch it. But you have to watch the Obama deception. Fairs fair.
beatpyramid
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And i will watch both if you watch the talking cat.
ATREYU
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The Fed is independent!
kathmandu
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Reports: Bilderberg To Meet in Athens
http://www.infowars.net/articles/march2 ... erberg.htm

ENDGAME- ALEX JONES - Blueprint for Global Enslavement
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 3600562261
Wade Shekinah
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kathmandu wrote :
ENDGAME- ALEX JONES - Blueprint for Global Enslavement
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 3600562261

Thanks for putting that up. I'm glad I saw it.
slip
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"One man thinks himself the master of others, but remains more of a slave than they." -- Roussaeu

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beatpyramid
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Is this the thread for those whom have consumed way too many drugs and think that the world is out to get them?
Wade Shekinah
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beatpyramid wrote :
Is this the thread for those whom have consumed way too many drugs and think that the world is out to get them?

Excuse the music and watch

beatpyramid
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Wade Shekinah wrote :
beatpyramid wrote :
Is this the thread for those whom have consumed way too many drugs and think that the world is out to get them?

Excuse the music and watch



Your appearance in this thread answered my question.
slip
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What I don't get is what is so wrong with this apparent NWO (assuming it does exist, which it doesn't). I quite like the dominant system and am hard pressed to find an example anywhere in the world, or throughout history, in which people were better off than what we have here and now.

If you are so disgusted living in a controlled system, why not move to the Papua New Guinean rainforest and build yourself a shack? Or would you miss all those terribly evil things the bankers have imposed on us like the Internet, free education and healthcare, TV and trance music? Let's face it, people now live better than the richest kings of the world lived just a couple of hundred years ago: in return for one hours work, you can be entertained by a movie that had a budget of over $500 million, sounds like a fair trade off to me, so fair that a medieval king would piss his pants with jealousy. Which part of YOUR life are these puppet-masters negatively effecting? So they banned your favourite drugs, but has that ever stopped you? Obviously not if you believe there are humans wise enough to control the world. Do you feel like a slave? If so, perhaps you should opt out of the social contract which you happily take the benefits from, and move to an ungoverned part of the world.

There is no doubt that governments and leaders around the world are trying to move to a globalised system, ideally with a world government that can enforce order. The opposite of this is what we currently have, sovereignty, in which an artificial line on a map determines who your neighbours are, and who you are allowed to kill. I suppose it would have been terrible if there were an international government who could have jumped in to the Rwanda genocide in 1994 and stopped a million people from being butchered (largely with machetes)? Or perhaps that's not your concern, because you'd prefer to respect the artificial border that makes it somebody else's problem.

Is it really evil to support the idea that all humans on this planet can get along, and work towards a global system? Is it any better to have it broken into hundreds of nations competing against each other? I think despite the fact that these conspiracy theories are fundamentally false, you fail to realise that alot of people who aren't freemasons or bankers also believe in globalisation, for its benefits, not its evils.
beatpyramid
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slip wrote :
What I don't get is what is so wrong with this apparent NWO (assuming it does exist, which it doesn't). I quite like the dominant system and am hard pressed to find an example anywhere in the world, or throughout history, in which people were better off than what we have here and now.

If you are so disgusted living in a controlled system, why not move to the Papua New Guinean rainforest and build yourself a shack? Or would you miss all those terribly evil things the bankers have imposed on us like the Internet, free education and healthcare, TV and trance music? Let's face it, people now live better than the richest kings of the world lived just a couple of hundred years ago: in return for one hours work, you can be entertained by a movie that had a budget of over $500 million, sounds like a fair trade off to me, so fair that a medieval king would piss his pants with jealousy. Which part of YOUR life are these puppet-masters negatively effecting? So they banned your favourite drugs, but has that ever stopped you? Obviously not if you believe there are humans wise enough to control the world. Do you feel like a slave? If so, perhaps you should opt out of the social contract which you happily take the benefits from, and move to an ungoverned part of the world.

There is no doubt that governments and leaders around the world are trying to move to a globalised system, ideally with a world government that can enforce order. The opposite of this is what we currently have, sovereignty, in which an artificial line on a map determines who your neighbours are, and who you are allowed to kill. I suppose it would have been terrible if there were an international government who could have jumped in to the Rwanda genocide in 1994 and stopped a million people from being butchered (largely with machetes)? Or perhaps that's not your concern, because you'd prefer to respect the artificial border that makes it somebody else's problem.

Is it really evil to support the idea that all humans on this planet can get along, and work towards a global system? Is it any better to have it broken into hundreds of nations competing against each other? I think despite the fact that these conspiracy theories are fundamentally false, you fail to realise that alot of people who aren't freemasons or bankers also believe in globalisation, for its benefits, not its evils.


Well said !
Wade Shekinah
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Because we need a world-system under GOD; acknowledging Christ as the Head of humanity, with Him as our model, our example to follow. Not the godless abomination we have now that's bringing us and our beautiful planet to ruin.
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