V for Vendetta

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bobret the hobret
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http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4296

It’s not often that a film can affect the body politic of a nation. But that is the effect of the movie released on St. Patrick's Day, <>V for Vendetta<>. Set in a near future England ruled by a Conservative Party government-turned-fascist, the hero, a horribly burned escaped political prisoner named "V" who dons a Guy Fawkes mask, cape, hat, and has an array of fancy weapons (sort of a Zorro, Phantom of the Opera, and Batman clone), blows up London's Old Bailey judicial building and the Houses of Parliament as an act of vengeance for the genocide and political repression carried out by the fascist government. As a historical note, Guy Fawkes attempted to blow of Parliament in 1605 with gunpowder in a plot involving Catholics and Spain. He was caught and hanged but soon became a folk hero to England's working class and Guy Fawkes Day is celebrated with fireworks every November 5.

What has our own fascist right wing media hopping mad are the references to the Bush regime and its wars. One political dissident in the movie has a secret room displaying banned art and posters. One of the posters is from the anti- Iraq war London protests -- it displays a U.S. flag and U.K. flag inter-connected by a swastika with the words "Coalition of the Willing." There are references to a civil war- and virus-ravaged "former United States" that has engaged not only in the actual war in Iraq but wars in Syria and Kurdistan. There are comments about America's rendition and there are plenty of black hoods thrown on the heads of political detainees and "yellow" terrorist alerts. Not only has TV come under total fascist control, but Britain's Royal Mail has been privatized and turned into the "British Freight Co." There is also a reference to a genocide carried out by the English fascists in Ireland and it may not have been totally coincidental that a film focusing on an English fascist government's repression of freedom fighters was released on St. Patrick's Day.

The Conservative Party reaches ultimate power by unleashing a virus on Britain killing thousands. It turns out that leading members of the Conservative Party own stock in the pharmaceutical firms that have the vaccine drugs and enrich themselves in the process. Several top officials of the Bush regime have interests in various pharmaceutical firms involved with anthrax, smallpox, and avian flu vaccines --including Donald Rumsfeld, the former CEO of G.D. Searle [sold to Monsanto] -- and V for Vendetta's references to avian flu as a government attempt to hype the media and bamboozle the public is another clear link between the film's anti-fascist message and the Bush/Tony Blair governments.

Britain's near future features a Fox/Sky News type propaganda news network called "British Television Network." Its major racist, right-wing blatherer also happens to enjoy romping around in a specially-built shower in his office (hmmm... I wonder who that might really be?). There is also the bald, pudgy, and thoroughly revolting top assistant and chief dirty tricks operative to the fascist High Chancellor (hmmm...again, I wonder who that could be?). And then there is the English Bishop who happens to like little girls (well, that could be any of our so-called "moral majority" religious leaders, except in some cases, little boys could be substituted for little girls).

In the end, all these fiends are eliminated, one by one, by our man "V." And this is what probably, more than anything else, has the right-wing defecating in their pants. They know that one day they will face a reckoning for the damage they've done to the United States, to Iraq, to the United Nations process and international law, and to peoples and nations around the world. And that reckoning will be far from a slap on the wrists and the right-wing is beginning to wake up to that fact. Some on the right now understand they overplayed their hand and are trying to change their spots.

The left has always been tolerant to a point. But pushed against the wall, the progressives of the world have always discovered how to treat their vanquished enemies -- just look at what happened to Hans Frank, Wilhelm Frick, Julius Streicher, Ernst Kaltenbrunner, Pierre Laval, Vidkun Quisling, and other fascist leaders of the 20th century.

V has one bit of advice that is already echoing around the Internet: "People shouldn't be afraid of their government, government should be afraid of their people."

It looks like there will be a run on Guy Fawkes masks and maybe quite a few red spray painted "Vs" on various public adverts and walls. And why not? Let neo-con governments and their operatives and lickspittles everywhere know that with a blossoming of red "Vs" that we the people do understand and neo-con governments and their right-wing supporters should be very afraid of the people.
Already, the right-wing, including blogs like Town Hall, Men's News Daily, and WorldNetDaily, are attacking the film, calling it, among other things, pro-terrorist, pro-homosexual, neo-Marxist, anti-Christian, and left-wing pro-Islamo-fascist (by the way, co-star Natalie Portman is Israeli born). Someone named Ted Baehr, writing for WorldNetDaily, called Britain's Parliament, blown up by V in the movie, "Western Civilization's most enduring symbols of democracy and republican government." That's funny, last time this editor went to Britain, I distinctly remember the country being a monarchy. But history is not a strong suit among the right-wing. Their hero, George W. Bush, can't even read a history book although he's probably listened to the book-on-tape version of Mein Kampf.

The right-wing has plenty to be worried about with the movie V for Vendetta. They will first see the push back in the November elections (and woe be it to them if they once again engage in election fraud). And upon electoral victory will inevitably come the indictments, trials, impeachments, imprisonments, electoral recalls, and, if need be, deportations, or as they called them during the days of Guy Fawkes, banishment.

 

bobret the hobret
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i think the guy that wrote the review is pretty hopeful in terms of outcomes in real life..

 

Cucho
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yes i saw the billboard for this today. when they say from the makers of the matrix, who do they mean- the directors or producers?

 

simon
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a friend in america says this is being raved about over there. it looks interesting.

 

SamuraiJack
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Pity that it doesn't stick all that closely to the comic and apparently fucks up the story quite a bit....

 

bobret the hobret
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oh well, that shouldnt bother me too much as i stopped reading comics when i was 11..

 

SamuraiJack
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bobret the hobret wrote :
oh well, that shouldnt bother me too much as i stopped reading comics when i was 11..


Pity you stopped reading books at the same age.

 

bobret the hobret
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LOR! - no.

 

SamuraiJack
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bobret the hobret wrote :
LOR! - no.


I always find it sad to see the young in denial.

 

bobret the hobret
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haha yeh you're right in that i stopped reading fiction/novels. but aside from that you're completely wrong.

look its ok if you wanna read comic books, i wont hold it against you man.

 

SamuraiJack
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bobret the hobret wrote :
haha yeh you're right in that i stopped reading fiction/novels. but aside from that you're completely wrong.

look its ok if you wanna read comic books, i wont hold it against you man.


Like I said. You stopped reading books.

 

bobret the hobret
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no i stopped reading fiction faggot, aside from novels in english at school. i continue to read non-fiction books. anyways - fuck you cockneck! why am i taking your bait?[/b]

 

karra
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i think natalie portman is hot, especially with a shaved head, so i will go see it
luckily the storyline is quite interesting, but the name of film sucks.

 

SamuraiJack
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bobret the hobret wrote :
no i stopped reading fiction faggot, aside from novels in english at school. i continue to read non-fiction books. anyways - fuck you cockneck! why am i taking your bait?[/b]


You know, tinfoil monthly doesn't really count as a book.

Why are you taking my bait? Simple.

I'm about ten gagillion steps ahead of you.

That's why.

 

SamuraiJack
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karra wrote :
i think natalie portman is hot, especially with a shaved head, so i will go see it
luckily the storyline is quite interesting, but the name of film sucks.


Oh very good. Go and see a movie that has some really punchy themese because the female lead is hot.

The name of the film sucks? Uh. What?

V. For Vendetta.

As in, he sprays the letter V around to stand for the Vendetta he has against a totalitarian government.

It's a pretty damn good name really.

 

bobret the hobret
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hehe

they did that in 'V' the miniseries too.

 

bobret the hobret
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SamuraiJack wrote :
bobret the hobret wrote :
no i stopped reading fiction faggot, aside from novels in english at school. i continue to read non-fiction books. anyways - fuck you cockneck! why am i taking your bait?[/b]


You know, tinfoil monthly doesn't really count as a book.

Why are you taking my bait? Simple.

I'm about ten gagillion steps ahead of you.

That's why.


LOR.

 

karra
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SamuraiJack wrote :
karra wrote :
i think natalie portman is hot, especially with a shaved head, so i will go see it
luckily the storyline is quite interesting, but the name of film sucks.


Oh very good. Go and see a movie that has some really punchy themese because the female lead is hot.

The name of the film sucks? Uh. What?

V. For Vendetta.

As in, he sprays the letter V around to stand for the Vendetta he has against a totalitarian government.

It's a pretty damn good name really.


yeah pretty much
I wont see pink panther because of steve martin, nor will i go se the da vinci code because of tom hanks..

still thinkin the name is lame

but its ok, its just my opinion, you dont need to try and change it.

 

Cyberwlf
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The movie is pretty good for what has been made to be a hollywood blockbuster.

Go see it.

 

Cucho
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i didnt have too high expectations when i went & i really enjoyed this movie.

natalie portman is indeed hot. she manages to pull off a really good british accent. the only thing i didnt like is when hugo weaving started to sound too much like his matrix agent character.

it was the wachowski brothers that wrote the screenplay & the assistant director from the matrix who directed it.

it definately is one of those movies that you continue to think about for days afterwards.

 

sensient tim
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I thought it was shit. All the talk of dealing with controversial issues like terrorism...yeh right. The terrorism we see in the movie is buildings being blown up accompanied by classical music and fireworks (wtf!?) with zero casualties. Hollywood Lite!

 

Cucho
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i think the film is more conceptual than realistic,... the word terrorist is a bit of trigger word to bridge what is happening today to a possible future in 2015 when the film is set, & also get us thinking about the direction society is going in by allowing govts more & more power, rights to invade privacy etc

you dont need to see the bodies being blown up when the buildings go off- it is more symbolic (that reason was even given in the movie)

 

sensient tim
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yeh your right about how the movie raised issues of goverment power and invasion of piracy etc. but still it just felt a bit tacky to me, and i didnt FEEL anything much from the movie...which for me is what makes a movie. Portman is dreamy though...yum!!

 

SamuraiJack
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In the comic V kills about a bazillion cops. Some of them with the good old "Fingers like knives" trick.

 

rolly
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Is there lots of nblood and guts? Someone told me there is a lot of sword fighting in it :D
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